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TheExRepublican (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@swebbie Exactly, and it was exactly at the moment that I realized that, that I dumped the two party system and went libertarian. Real freedom has nothing to do with right or left. "Republican" and "Democrat" are labels that roughly correspond in football to the Chiefs v.s. the Raiders. They are both playing the same game (that's all it is, a game) under the same set of rules, both taking your money to pay for the stadium and the players. What differs is the jersey they wear.
RyanR3volution (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@catonic Your a misinformed , I am a libertarian and I have very good social views, you do not know what your talking about, conservatism used to be good mind you and has been converted by the neocon bible humpers. Neocons are in reality the true conservatives but modern day (FAKE) conservatives have nothing to do with libertarians and are staunch enemies.
catonic (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Libertarian= used car salesman for conservatism. If you read the fine print (social views), they're basically the same.
oculist2020 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@swebbie Apparently your point of view of "flip sides of the same coin" depends on a particular coin not in discussion. From my point of view "this" could not be more incorrect, as we have by no means "traveled back to the beginning". Only an arbitrary starting point that itself is the culmination of disparate fundamental debate. Trying to justify apples with a statement that "somebody peeled one" is inherently lacking.
thetevinguy (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
It is easy to mistake this argument as being against military preparedness. I do not trust the rest of the world to be moved by such lofty rhetoric.
swebbie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@HORNE19730607 - I'm sorry that you were unable to grasp my meaning. These are not simple issues, and some minds are not up to the task. Know your limits.
HORNE19730607 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@swebbie Forgive i may be wrong ,but i dont think so, but the second sentence made zero sense . Could you maybe forget trying to project uber intelligence and just try to construct a coherent statement . Are you in your first year of university ?
IntractableJ (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Mike11069 There are many different groups of libertarians in the United States. There are even statist libertarians, guys who don't want to abolish the state but do want to just remove its regulatory functions. I don't consider these genuine libertarians because they like the welfare state when it serves the upper class interest.
Mike11069 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@IntractableJ thanks A LOT for that information, guess i never though of going to wikipedia. but thats libertarian socialism, id like to know what american libertarianism is.
IntractableJ (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Mike11069 "Libertarian socialism is a group of political philosophies which promote a non-hierarchical, non-bureaucratic, stateless society without private property in the means of production. Libertarian socialism is opposed to all coercive forms of social organization, and promotes free association in place of government and opposes the coercive social relations of capitalism, such as wage labor." From Wikipedia. |
