Ligeia4 (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

I think our ideologies are similar but we are splitting hairs over terminology. Stalemate?

Ligeia4 (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

I think our ideologies are similar but we are splitting hairs over terminology. Stalemate?

JonnyMuzz (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

They are not subjective viewpoints, it is instinctual. Look at how a child views the world before they are corrupted with societal views. The reason some societies don't have that view is through indoctrinated beliefs. The government will try to enforce the level of control that it desires, but at the end of the day those natural rights are still rights; just some people are denied their rights.

PDRO4LYFE (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

Of course NOT its their environment that created those characteristics. My point is...humans personalities are molded by the environment.PERIOD

PDRO4LYFE (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

Nope, there is no such thing as human nature. There are cases when kids are raised by dogs and the kids act like dogs. Some "native" "Americans" promoted giving,sharing,honesty ect. that was the only way to become chief, now what do you think young males did in those tribes? They practiced the characteristics listed above. Ok now lets take a look at our society today, People are greedy, dishonest ect. everything is fueled by greed, is it the individuals fault?

flipflop1234567890 (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

human nature DOES exist. the human mind is no clear picture but it is understood that most behavior is either learned, or instinctive. i agree that the majority of behavior is learned, but even learned behavior takes root in instinct. maybe at one unknown point in history human nature was nonexistent, but i am fairly sure that our instincts(nature) are ingrained in our DNA. even if instincts are learned in the womb, the will to survive is present even before you hit the egg... human nature.

Meseka0 (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

They only enforce rights if the common people let them. Our constitution says "By the people, and for the people". In truth, we should be the one's who decide, let that not be a mistake. The people are the ones who made the govt and are the ones who can and will control it. A new era is upon us in the years ahead when it is families and people, not corporations and high-ranks, whom control the laws and outcomes like it should be.

Meseka0 (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

We are connected to all, you know of this. There is more to the connection too. Every heart has its feeling that seems to be direct to Spirit.Brain is direct to Mind.Body is the physical essence and our Soul is our inner essence, and through mind body connects to Spirit, the Soul by meditation, prayer, praise, and enlightenment. Would you agree to this? I seek no argument with you, I simply like your end comment of connection, it is the philosophy I teach too. to pleiadians777 comment

Ligeia4 (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

I agree with your perspective that everyone has basic needs which should be met but because some governments don't have rights instated to protect those needs, I don't think its the proper term when talking about ethical universals like liberty, food, shelter, etc. Not to say these should not be rights for all of humanity

Fanatic4FreeThought (December 31, 1969 at 11:59 pm)

I disagree, all societies may not respect rights, but these rights are an inherit part of being a human being. We are naturally hardwired to desire these rights, regardless of social norms, though sometimes environmental influences can overwhelm this natural desires.Take for example a slave. Even if a slave is enslaved from birth and is expected to accept their place they may still naturally desire liberty.