hehefromhere (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

768 people watch CNN & FOX for info.

TwinSmoke (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@bull864 Oh my God you're stupid. Whether it be by choice or you were born that way, you are SEVERELY lacking in this debate. We owe Japan one trillion thirty eight billion.9 dollars. We owe China one trillion one hundred thirty two billion.6 dollars. I swear. I HATE debating morons here. By the way, those are the latest numbers as of 11/11. So apparantly, I AM smarter than you. But keep trying. I'll be here all day long showing you up.

kristopherDay (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

and to think this man is now last in the race! Wow. Sure are alot of dumb AMERICANS!

bull864 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@TwinSmoke and owe Japan a little less than a trillion. For whatever reason, you seem to have this elitist "I'm smarter than you" mentality when you have shown me are anything but. So like I said, quit drinking the kool-aid and learn the real facts. I'd be glad to tutor you in something else fiscally if you'd like.

bull864 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@TwinSmoke No, you are incapable of learning it seems. We have spent $4 trillion on the Iraq and Afghan wars since 2001. By your math, we have spent $550 billion. You aren't even close. And thanks to Obama and W Bush, we have accumulated $9 trillion in debt or so. Obama gets credit for most of it, but for whatever reason you Neo-Cons want to give W Bush a pass on his $4 trillion he put on the credit card. And FYI, China surpassed Japan years ago. We owe China almost $2 trillion

TwinSmoke (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@bull864 Actually, I have studied up. So allow me to educate you since you cannot do it on your own. We spend about 50 billion dollars a year on all our wars. This nation brings in 2.6 trillion dollars a year. Currently, thanks to Nobama, we are paying 40 billion dollars a month in just interest on our 15.2 trillion dollars worth of loans. China has now surpassed Japan with the amount of money they've loaned us. Learn anything yet?

bull864 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@TwinSmoke Look at the number of troops we send overseas to fight and die compared to everyone else. Secondly, look at the dollars we spend in wars compared to everyone else. It isn't close. You are living in a fog. Obviously you are the one who needs to study up.

bull864 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@TwinSmoke Newt has conveniently changed his mind a lot when deciding to run for president. That's one reason he can't be trusted. I don't understand how you can listen to Newt soundbites over the years and trust the guy. He is a dangerous man. As far as illegals go, what if an illegal immigrant has children and grandchildren here who are legal and he had only been here ten years? What then?

TwinSmoke (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@bull864 Gingrich changed his mind on global warming. I don't know if you remember, but EVERYONE bought that crap. Now, knowing it's a scam, he changed his mind. Well, so did I. Therefor, I can relate. If an illegal has children and grandchildren that are all American citizens, that then would be pretty obvious to any intellectual out there. As far as our wars... It's NEVER just us out there. We ALWAYS have several nations risking their lives too. Better study up.

bull864 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@TwinSmoke First of all, how can you believe anything Gingrich says? He changes his mind as much as the weather changes. Secondly, how the hell is he going to know how long an illegal has been here? Nobody knows, so that idea is pure crap. You have to draw the line. If you are legal, you stay. If you aren't, you have to go.As far as foreign policy, you protect the unprotectable as a last resort. Protecting our allies on our dime and on the lives of our soldiers is insane.